My BBC Radio 4 Debate on the Honours System with Owen Jones and Benjamin Zaphaniah

Entrance to New Broadcasting House

Early on the morning of December 31st I was driven through drizzly rain to New Broadcasting House, the spectacular new head quarters of the BBC, to discuss the honours system in advance of the release of the New Years Honours List. My two opponents in the debate were Owen Jones (the current darling of the left) and Benjamin Zephaniah,  who famously rejected his Order of the British Empire.

The short interview (necessarily short as it was on Breakfast radio) may be heard here:

The Today Programme Studio, with John Humphrys far right.